More than likely the WT will not be mentioned, but may be worth watching. It is on "The History Channel" two hours from now on the program "Decoding the Past"
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Decoding the Past series "Cults: Dangerous Devotion" today @ 5pm pacific
by Apostate Kate inmore than likely the wt will not be mentioned, but may be worth watching.
it is on "the history channel" two hours from now on the program "decoding the past"
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Do you believe in god? Do you demand the same evidence of him as you do evolution?
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Yes I do. I did not demand evidence but He gave it anyway. This has been fun but I am done here. I find it interesting that I have been called names, told I was ignorant and all from people who I doubt have put much more research into their beliefs that I have except save maybe Leolai. All I said is I don't accept this theory as proof of the evolution of any organism into a higher more complex life form because I have never seen proof of this. The fact remains that with all this supposed evidence, it is not enough to name it the "Law" of evolution. A bacteruim can be effected by the environment to survive, all life wants to survive, but it will never grow a central nervous system. It will adapt to its surroundings, not grow a brain, it is bacteria and has been bacteria since God created it. Missing links are still missing. Leoliai-I know there are some benifits to genetics, all I have said is there is no evidence that these changes have ever lead to new more complex life form. If a percentage study was done we may find there are more detrimental effects of mutating genetic material than good. That is just common sense here. Take a walk through your local convalescent hospital and take a good look. If adaptation and natural selection were adding quality genetic material to the human genome greater than mutations were corrupting, why are we so screwed up? Why are we riddled with diseases? Abadon if you have a new gene sequence doesn't that mean you also have an old gene sequence? And since it is adaptation dependant on environmental input isn't fluctuationg information? In mapping the two genetic diseases in my ancestors, there is no evidence that we developed new information that caused us to be more highly evolved and disease resistant. The mutation happened and has been passed along since before the Vikings were raping and pilaging. Adam and Eve (scientists named) have been mapped all the way back to Africa. Again, show me any scientific evidence that shows a living human can pop up out of no where. I understand the theory completly, and it makes no sense to me. So Eve popped up, a gigantic mutation from an ape and Adam did at the same time, just popped up and the human race was here. If this works for you fine! It doesn't for me. I have no desire to defend my position on this, nor am I asking anybody here to defend theirs. ::gone and not looking at this thread again::
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Satanus it is a fascination study to say the least. I am so poor at explaining things because I am not a science major. I have met 2 creation scientists in person, read their books, and studied both sides, as I said, I was an evolutionist in the past.
On antibiotoc resistant bugs, the resistance does not cause the type up new genetic material that would count as proof of evolution into a more complex life form. If so it would no longer be a theory. I'll let Dr Spentner explain it, he is just one of the scientists that I respect. Talk Origens refused to post his answer the the resistence issue.
"The antibiotics produced by these microorganisms serve them as a defense against attack by other microorganisms. Some microorganisms are endowed with genes that grant resistance to these antibiotics. This resistance can take the form of degrading the antibiotic molecule or of ejecting it from the cell. Unfortunately for human health care, the organisms having these genes can transfer them to other bacteria making them resistant as well. Although the resistance mechanisms are specific to a particular antibiotic, most pathogenic bacteria have, to our misfortune, succeeded in accumulating several sets of genes granting them resistance to a variety of antibiotics.
The acquisition of antibiotic resistance in this manner qualifies as evolution only in the sense that it is an adaptive hereditary change. It is an example only of Evolution B. It is not the type of evolution that can make a baboon out of a bacterium. The genetic change is not the kind that can serve as a prototype for the mutations needed to account for Evolution A. The genetic changes that could illustrate the theory must not only add information to the bacterium’s genome, they must add new information to the biocosm. The horizontal transfer of genes only spreads around genes that are already in some species."A Scientific Defense of a Creationist Position on Evolution
From the get go I stated that I have no problem believing in adaptation and natural selection, but not so far as it can add more complex genetic material to an organism that could create a more complex life form. The antibiotic resistant bacteria is still.....bacteria and will always be bacteria.
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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There is a good reason why they have yet to disprove the evolution theory
I thought new theory's were under scientific scrutiny and research to be proved, which evolution has not been as of yet. Until it is, I will not believe it. Some of look at research and say "see this is proof" I and many others look at that research and say "see this is proof".
There are many scientists who are theists who do not believe in evolution.
Creation scientists and other biographies of interest
The Scientific Case Against Evolution - Institute for Creation Research
Are there scientists alive today who accept the biblical account of creation?
Note: Individuals on this list must possess a doctorate in a science-related field. If you would like to be included on this list, please see our inclusion procedure.
- Dr. Paul Ackerman, Psychologist
- Dr. E. Theo Agard, Medical Physics
- Dr. James Allan, Geneticist
- Dr. Steve Austin, Geologist
- Dr. S.E. Aw, Biochemist
- Dr. Thomas Barnes, Physicist
- Dr. Geoff Barnard, Immunologist
- Dr. Don Batten, Plant physiologist, tropical fruit expert
- Dr. John Baumgardner, Electrical Engineering, Space Physicist, Geophysicist, expert in supercomputer modeling of plate tectonics
- Dr. Jerry Bergman, Psychologist
- Dr. Kimberly Berrine, Microbiology & Immunology
- Prof. Vladimir Betina, Microbiology, Biochemistry & Biology
- Dr. Raymond G. Bohlin, Biologist
- Dr. Andrew Bosanquet, Biology, Microbiology
- Edward A. Boudreaux, Theoretical Chemistry
- Dr. David R. Boylan, Chemical Engineer
- Prof. Linn E. Carothers, Associate Professor of Statistics
- Dr. David Catchpoole, Plant Physiologist (read his testimony)
- Prof. Sung-Do Cha, Physics
- Dr. Eugene F. Chaffin, Professor of Physics
- Dr. Choong-Kuk Chang, Genetic Engineering
- Prof. Jeun-Sik Chang, Aeronautical Engineering
- Dr. Donald Chittick, Physical Chemist (interview)
- Prof. Chung-Il Cho, Biology Education
- Dr. John M. Cimbala, Mechanical Engineering
- Dr. Harold Coffin, Palaeontologist
- Dr. Bob Compton, DVM
- Dr. Ken Cumming, Biologist
- Dr. Jack W. Cuozzo, Dentist
- Dr. William M. Curtis III, Th.D., Th.M., M.S., Aeronautics & Nuclear Physics
- Dr. Malcolm Cutchins, Aerospace Engineering
- Dr. Lionel Dahmer, Analytical Chemist
- Dr. Raymond V. Damadian, M.D., Pioneer of magnetic resonance imaging
- Dr. Chris Darnbrough, Biochemist
- Dr. Nancy M. Darrall, Botany
- Dr. Bryan Dawson, Mathematics
- Dr. Douglas Dean, Biological Chemistry
- Prof. Stephen W. Deckard, Assistant Professor of Education
- Dr. David A. DeWitt, Biology, Biochemistry, Neuroscience
- Dr. Don DeYoung, Astronomy, atmospheric physics, M.Div
- Dr. David Down, Field Archaeologist
- Dr. Geoff Downes, Creationist Plant Physiologist
- Dr. Ted Driggers, Operations research
- Robert H. Eckel, Medical Research
- Dr. André Eggen, Geneticist
- Dr. Dudley Eirich, Molecular Biologist
- Prof. Dennis L. Englin, Professor of Geophysics
- Prof. Danny Faulkner, Astronomy
- Prof. Carl B. Fliermans, Professor of Biology
- Prof. Dwain L. Ford, Organic Chemistry
- Prof. Robert H. Franks, Associate Professor of Biology
- Dr. Alan Galbraith, Watershed Science
- Dr. Paul Giem, Medical Research
- Dr. Maciej Giertych, Geneticist
- Dr. Duane Gish, Biochemist
- Dr. Werner Gitt, Information Scientist
- Dr. Warwick Glover, General Surgeon
- Dr. D.B. Gower, Biochemistry
- Dr. Dianne Grocott, Psychiatrist
- Dr. Stephen Grocott, Industrial Chemist
- Dr. Donald Hamann, Food Scientist
- Dr. Barry Harker, Philosopher
- Dr. Charles W. Harrison, Applied Physicist, Electromagnetics
- Dr. John Hartnett, Physicist and Cosmologist
- Dr. Mark Harwood, Satellite Communications
- Dr. George Hawke, Environmental Scientist
- Dr. Margaret Helder, Science Editor, Botanist
- Dr. Harold R. Henry, Engineer
- Dr. Jonathan Henry, Astronomy
- Dr. Joseph Henson, Entomologist
- Dr. Robert A. Herrmann, Professor of Mathematics, US Naval Academy
- Dr. Andrew Hodge, Head of the Cardiothoracic Surgical Service
- Dr. Kelly Hollowell, Molecular and Cellular Pharmacologist
- Dr. Ed Holroyd, III, Atmospheric Science
- Dr. Bob Hosken, Biochemistry
- Dr. George F. Howe, Botany
- Dr. Neil Huber, Physical Anthropologist
- Dr. Russell Humphreys, Physicist
- Dr. James A. Huggins, Professor and Chair, Department of Biology
- Evan Jamieson, Hydrometallurgy
- George T. Javor, Biochemistry
- Dr. Pierre Jerlström, Creationist Molecular Biologist
- Dr. Arthur Jones, Biology
- Dr. Jonathan W. Jones, Plastic Surgeon
- Dr. Raymond Jones, Agricultural Scientist
- Prof. Leonid Korochkin, Molecular Biology
- Dr. Valery Karpounin, Mathematical Sciences, Logics, Formal Logics
- Dr. Dean Kenyon, Biologist
- Prof. Gi-Tai Kim, Biology
- Prof. Harriet Kim, Biochemistry
- Prof. Jong-Bai Kim, Biochemistry
- Prof. Jung-Han Kim, Biochemistry
- Prof. Jung-Wook Kim, Environmental Science
- Prof. Kyoung-Rai Kim, Analytical Chemistry
- Prof. Kyoung-Tai Kim, Genetic Engineering
- Prof. Young-Gil Kim, Materials Science
- Prof. Young In Kim, Engineering
- Dr. John W. Klotz, Biologist
- Dr. Vladimir F. Kondalenko, Cytology/Cell Pathology
- Dr. Leonid Korochkin, M.D., Genetics, Molecular Biology, Neurobiology
- Dr. John K.G. Kramer, Biochemistry
- Prof. Jin-Hyouk Kwon, Physics
- Prof. Myung-Sang Kwon, Immunology
- Dr. John Leslie, Biochemist
- Prof. Lane P. Lester, Biologist, Genetics
- Dr. Jason Lisle, Astrophysicist
- Dr. Alan Love, Chemist
- Dr. Ian Macreadie, molecular biologist and microbiologist:
- Dr. John Marcus, Molecular Biologist
- Dr. George Marshall, Eye Disease Researcher
- Dr. Ralph Matthews, Radiation Chemist
- Dr. John McEwan, Chemist
- Prof. Andy McIntosh, Combustion theory, aerodynamics
- Dr. David Menton, Anatomist
- Dr. Angela Meyer, Creationist Plant Physiologist
- Dr. John Meyer, Physiologist
- Dr. Albert Mills, Animal Embryologist/Reproductive Physiologist
- Colin W. Mitchell, Geography
- Dr. John N. Moore, Science Educator
- Dr. John W. Moreland, Mechanical engineer and Dentist
- Dr. Arlton C. Murray, Paleontologist
- Dr. John D. Morris, Geologist
- Dr. Len Morris, Physiologist
- Dr. Graeme Mortimer, Geologist
- Stanley A. Mumma, Architectural Engineering
- Prof. Hee-Choon No, Nuclear Engineering
- Dr. Eric Norman, Biomedical researcher
- Dr. David Oderberg, Philosopher
- Prof. John Oller, Linguistics
- Prof. Chris D. Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biology
- Dr. John Osgood, Medical Practitioner
- Dr. Charles Pallaghy, Botanist
- Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
- Dr. David Pennington, Plastic Surgeon
- Prof. Richard Porter
- Dr. Georgia Purdom, Molecular Genetics
- Dr. John Rankin, Cosmologist
- Dr. A.S. Reece, M.D.
- Prof. J. Rendle-Short, Pediatrics
- Dr. Jung-Goo Roe, Biology
- Dr. David Rosevear, Chemist
- Dr. Ariel A. Roth, Biology
- Dr. Jonathan D. Sarfati, Physical chemist / spectroscopist
- Dr. Joachim Scheven Palaeontologist:
- Dr. Ian Scott, Educator
- Dr. Saami Shaibani, Forensic physicist
- Dr. Young-Gi Shim, Chemistry
- Prof. Hyun-Kil Shin, Food Science
- Dr. Mikhail Shulgin, Physics
- Dr. Emil Silvestru, Geologist/karstologist
- Dr. Roger Simpson, Engineer
- Dr. Harold Slusher, Geophysicist
- Dr. E. Norbert Smith, Zoologist
- Dr. Andrew Snelling, Geologist
- Prof. Man-Suk Song, Computer Science
- Dr. Timothy G. Standish, Biology
- Prof. James Stark, Assistant Professor of Science Education
- Prof. Brian Stone, Engineer
- Dr. Esther Su, Biochemistry
- Dr. Charles Taylor, Linguistics
- Dr. Stephen Taylor, Electrical Engineering
- Dr. Ker C. Thomson, Geophysics
- Dr. Michael Todhunter, Forest Genetics
- Dr. Lyudmila Tonkonog, Chemistry/Biochemistry
- Dr. Royal Truman, Organic Chemist:
- Dr. Larry Vardiman, Atmospheric Science
- Prof. Walter Veith, Zoologist
- Dr. Joachim Vetter, Biologist
- Dr. Tas Walker, Mechanical Engineer and Geologist
- Dr. Jeremy Walter, Mechanical Engineer
- Dr. Keith Wanser, Physicist
- Dr. Noel Weeks, Ancient Historian (also has B.Sc. in Zoology)
- Dr. A.J. Monty White, Chemistry/Gas Kinetics
- Dr. John Whitmore, Geologist/Paleontologist
- Dr. Carl Wieland, Medical doctor
- Dr. Lara Wieland, Medical doctor
- Dr. Clifford Wilson, Psycholinguist and archaeologist
- Dr. Kurt Wise, Palaeontologist
- Dr. Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist
- Prof. Seoung-Hoon Yang, Physics
- Dr. Thomas (Tong Y.) Yi, Ph.D., Creationist Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
- Dr. Ick-Dong Yoo, Genetics
- Dr. Sung-Hee Yoon, Biology
- Dr. Patrick Young, Chemist and Materials Scientist
- Prof. Keun Bae Yu, Geography
- Dr. Henry Zuill, Biology
Is there evidence of discrimination against creation scientists?
- Contemporary suppression of the theistic worldview
- Do creation scientists publish in secular journals?
- Do creationists publish in notable refereed journals?
- Bias in higher education
- Peer pressure and truth
- Revolutionary Atmospheric Invention by Victim of Anti-creationist Discrimination
- Science magazine refuses to hire creationist
- The not-so-Nobel decision
- The tyranny of ‘tolerance’
Which scientists of the past believed in a Creator?
Note: These scientists are sorted by birth year.
Early
Francis Bacon (1561–1626) Scientific method. However, see also
Culture Wars:- Part 1: Bacon vs Ham
- Part 2: Ham vs Bacon
- Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) (WOH) Physics, Astronomy (see also The Galileo ‘twist’ and The Galileo affair: history or heroic hagiography?
- Johann Kepler (1571–1630) (WOH) Scientific astronomy
- Athanasius Kircher (1601–1680) Inventor
- John Wilkins (1614–1672)
- Walter Charleton (1619–1707) President of the Royal College of Physicians
- Blaise Pascal (biography page) and article from Creation magazine (1623–1662) Hydrostatics; Barometer
- Sir William Petty (1623 –1687) Statistics; Scientific economics
- Robert Boyle (1627–1691) (WOH) Chemistry; Gas dynamics
- John Ray (1627–1705) Natural history
- Isaac Barrow (1630–1677) Professor of Mathematics
- Nicolas Steno (1631–1686) Stratigraphy
- Thomas Burnet (1635–1715) Geology
- Increase Mather (1639–1723) Astronomy
- Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712) Medical Doctor, Botany
The Age of Newton
- Isaac Newton (1642–1727) (WOH) Dynamics; Calculus; Gravitation law; Reflecting telescope; Spectrum of light (wrote more about the Bible than science, and emphatically affirmed a Creator. Some have accused him of Arianism, but it’s likely he held to a heterodox form of the Trinity—See Pfizenmaier, T.C., Was Isaac Newton an Arian? Journal of the History of Ideas68(1):57–80, 1997)
- Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (1646–1716) Mathematician
- John Flamsteed (1646–1719) Greenwich Observatory Founder; Astronomy
- William Derham (1657–1735) Ecology
- Cotton Mather (1662–1727) Physician
- John Harris (1666–1719) Mathematician
- John Woodward (1665–1728) Paleontology
- William Whiston (1667–1752) Physics, Geology
- John Hutchinson (1674–1737) Paleontology
- Johathan Edwards (1703–1758) Physics, Meteorology
- Carolus Linneaus (1707–1778) Taxonomy; Biological classification system
- Jean Deluc (1727–1817) Geology
- Richard Kirwan (1733–1812) Mineralogy
- William Herschel (1738–1822) Galactic astronomy; Uranus (probably believed in an old-earth)
- James Parkinson (1755–1824) Physician (old-earth compromiser*)
- John Dalton (1766–1844) Atomic theory; Gas law
- John Kidd, M.D. (1775–1851) Chemical synthetics (old-earth compromiser*)
Just Before Darwin
- The 19 th Century Scriptural Geologists, by Dr. Terry Mortenson
- Timothy Dwight (1752–1817) Educator
- William Kirby (1759–1850) Entomologist
- Jedidiah Morse (1761–1826) Geographer
- Benjamin Barton (1766–1815) Botanist; Zoologist
- John Dalton (1766–1844) Father of the Modern Atomic Theory; Chemistry
- Georges Cuvier (1769–1832) Comparative anatomy, paleontology (old-earth compromiser*)
- Samuel Miller (1770–1840) Clergy
- Charles Bell (1774–1842) Anatomist
- John Kidd (1775–1851) Chemistry
- Humphrey Davy (1778–1829) Thermokinetics; Safety lamp
- Benjamin Silliman (1779–1864) Mineralogist (old-earth compromiser*)
- Peter Mark Roget (1779–1869) Physician; Physiologist
- Thomas Chalmers (1780–1847) Professor (old-earth compromiser*)
- David Brewster (1781–1868) Optical mineralogy, Kaleidoscope (probably believed in an old-earth)
- William Buckland (1784–1856) Geologist (old-earth compromiser*)
- William Prout (1785–1850) Food chemistry (probably believed in an old-earth)
- Adam Sedgwick (1785–1873) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
- Michael Faraday (1791–1867) (WOH) Electro magnetics; Field theory, Generator
- Samuel F.B. Morse (1791–1872) Telegraph
- John Herschel (1792–1871) Astronomy (old-earth compromiser*)
- Edward Hitchcock (1793–1864) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
- William Whewell (1794–1866) Anemometer (old-earth compromiser*)
- Joseph Henry (1797–1878) Electric motor; Galvanometer
Just After Darwin
- Richard Owen (1804–1892) Zoology; Paleontology (old-earth compromiser*)
- Matthew Maury (1806–1873) Oceanography, Hydrography (probably believed in an old-earth*)
- Louis Agassiz (1807–1873) Glaciology, Ichthyology (old-earth compromiser, polygenist*)
- Henry Rogers (1808–1866) Geology
- James Glaisher (1809–1903) Meteorology
- Philip H. Gosse (1810–1888) Ornithologist; Zoology
- Sir Henry Rawlinson (1810–1895) Archeologist
- James Simpson (1811–1870) Gynecology, Anesthesiology
- James Dana (1813–1895) Geology (old-earth compromiser*)
- Sir Joseph Henry Gilbert (1817–1901) Agricultural Chemist
- James Joule (1818–1889) Thermodynamics
- Thomas Anderson (1819–1874) Chemist
- Charles Piazzi Smyth (1819–1900) Astronomy
- George Stokes (1819–1903) Fluid Mechanics
- John William Dawson (1820–1899) Geology (probably believed in an old-earth*)
- Rudolph Virchow (1821–1902) Pathology
- Gregor Mendel (1822–1884) (WOH) Genetics
- Louis Pasteur (1822–1895) (WOH) Bacteriology, Biochemistry; Sterilization; Immunization
- Henri Fabre (1823–1915) Entomology of living insects
- William Thompson, Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) Energetics; Absolute temperatures; Atlantic cable (believed in an older earth than the Bible indicates, but far younger than the evolutionists wanted*)
- William Huggins (1824–1910) Astral spectrometry
- Bernhard Riemann (1826–1866) Non-Euclidean geometries
- Joseph Lister (1827–1912) Antiseptic surgery
- Balfour Stewart (1828–1887) Ionospheric electricity
- James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) (WOH) Electrodynamics; Statistical thermodynamics
- P.G. Tait (1831–1901) Vector analysis
- John Bell Pettigrew (1834–1908) Anatomist; Physiologist
- John Strutt, Lord Rayleigh (1842–1919) Similitude; Model Analysis; Inert Gases
- Sir William Abney (1843–1920) Astronomy
- Alexander MacAlister (1844–1919) Anatomy
- A.H. Sayce (1845–1933) Archeologist
- John Ambrose Fleming (1849–1945) Electronics; Electron tube; Thermionic valve
The Modern Period
- Dr. Clifford Burdick, Geologist
- George Washington Carver (1864–1943) Inventor
- L. Merson Davies (1890–1960) Geology; Paleontology
- Douglas Dewar (1875–1957) Ornithologist
- Howard A. Kelly (1858–1943) Gynecology
- Paul Lemoine (1878–1940) Geology
- Dr. Frank Marsh, Biology
- Dr. John Mann, Agriculturist, biological control pioneer
- Edward H. Maunder (1851–1928) Astronomy
- William Mitchell Ramsay (1851–1939) Archeologist
- William Ramsay (1852–1916) Isotopic chemistry, Element transmutation
- Charles Stine (1882–1954) Organic Chemist
- Dr. Arthur Rendle-Short (1885–1955) Surgeon
- Sir Cecil P. G. Wakeley (1892–1979) Surgeon
- Dr. Larry Butler, Biochemist
- Prof. Verna Wright, Rheumatologist (deceased 1997)
- Arthur E. Wilder-Smith (1915–1995) Three science doctorates; a creation science pioneer
- Dr. Henry M. Morris (1918–2006), founder of the Institute for Creation Research.
Is there a list of those who are against the biblical view of creation?
Are there other biographies and interviews of interest?
- David Aikman, journalist
- Basil of Caesarea
- Gary and Meri Bell, underwater photographers
- Hillmon Buckingham, Salvation Army Commissioner
- Calvin says: Genesis means what it says
- Steve Cardno, Creation Magazine art director
- Betty Cuthbert, Olympic champion
- Thyrza Davey, illustrator and author
- Buddy Davis, sculptor, singer
- Ralph DiCosimo, police officer
- Pete Dobré, creationist photographer
- Carol Drew, Creation photographer
- Ken Duncan, photographer
- Chang-Sha Fang, plant scientist
- Jim Farquhar, geologist
- Sergei Golovin, geophysicist
- Russell Grigg
- David and Doreen Hart
- Johnny Hart, cartoonist
- Paul James-Griffiths, missionary to the New Age Movement
- Robert Jensen, photographer
- Dr. Douglas Kelly, academic theologian
- Dan Lietha, cartoonist
- Dr. George Lindsey, associate professor of science education
- Martin Lloyd-Jones, evangelist
- Prof. Marvin Lubenow, anthropology
- Luther on Evolution, and What was Martin Luther’s stand on Creation/Evolution? (Christian Answers Network)
- Lou Moss, photographer
- William J. Murray, son of Madalyn Murray O’Hair
- Michael Oard, atmospheric scientist
- Jules H Poirier, design engineer
- Gary Raymond, law enforcement
- Peter and Cathy Sparrow, Creation Bus
- Joe Taylor, paleontologist
- Dr. Ting Wang, lecturer in biblical Hebrew
- Prof. Hannington Enoch, zoologist, ‘The man who got me hunting down evolution!’ by David C.C. Watson, author of Myths and Miracles
- Dr. John Whitcomb, theologian (interview)
- John Woodmorappe, geologist
::reaching over for a handfull of popcorn wondering if it is organic::
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by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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I am not going to use my own words anymore since they are so easily misunderstood. We went from genetic DNA mutations to chromasomes. I understand not ALL DNA mutations are detremental to life. My stance is that the though a base sequence can be altered, the base code information had to be there in the first place.
"For example, some mutations alter a gene’s DNA base sequence " Mutations and Health - Genetics Home Reference
Now on to chromasomes. I believe it is evolutionists opinions that chromasomes evolve. That is why we have a horse and a donkey. That would make a donkey; a horse with Down's Syndrome.
Can changes in the number of chromosomes affect health and development?
Human cells normally contain 23 pairs of chromosomes, for a total of 46 chromosomes in each cell. A change in the number of chromosomes can cause problems with growth, development, and function of the body’s systems. These changes can occur during the formation of reproductive cells (eggs and sperm), in early fetal development, or in any cell after birth. A gain or loss of chromosomes from the normal 46 is called aneuploidy.
A common form of aneuploidy is trisomy, or the presence of an extra chromosome in cells. “Tri-” is Greek for “three”; people with trisomy have three copies of a particular chromosome in cells instead of the normal two copies. Down syndrome is an example of a condition caused by trisomy. People with Down syndrome typically have three copies of chromosome 21 in each cell, for a total of 47 chromosomes per cell.
Monosomy, or the loss of one chromosome in cells, is another kind of aneuploidy. “Mono-” is Greek for “one”; people with monosomy have one copy of a particular chromosome in cells instead of the normal two copies. Turner syndrome is a condition caused by monosomy. Women with Turner syndrome usually have only one copy of the X chromosome in every cell, for a total of 45 chromosomes per cell.
Rarely, some cells end up with complete extra sets of chromosomes. Cells with one additional set of chromosomes, for a total of 69 chromosomes, are called triploid. Cells with two additional sets of chromosomes, for a total of 92 chromosomes, are called tetraploid. A condition in which every cell in the body has an extra set of chromosomes is not compatible with life.
In some cases, a change in the number of chromosomes occurs only in certain cells. When an individual has two or more cell populations with a different chromosomal makeup, this situation is called chromosomal mosaicism. Chromosomal mosaicism occurs from an error in cell division in cells other than eggs and sperm. Most commonly, some cells end up with one extra or missing chromosome (for a total of 45 or 47 chromosomes per cell), while other cells have the usual 46 chromosomes. Mosaic Turner syndrome is one example of chromosomal mosaicism. In females with this condition, some cells have 45 chromosomes because they are missing one copy of the X chromosome, while other cells have the usual number of chromosomes.
Many cancer cells also have changes in their number of chromosomes. These changes are not inherited; they occur in somatic cells (cells other than eggs or sperm) during the formation or progression of a cancerous tumor.
For more information about chromosomal disorders:
A discussion of how chromosomal abnormalities happen
is provided by the National Human Genome Research Institute.The Centre for Genetics Education offers a fact sheet about changes in chromosome number or size
.Additional information about chromosome abnormalities
is available from the Wellcome Trust.The National Organization for Rare Disorders offers an overview of triploid syndrome
.Chromosomal Mosaicism
, a web site provided by the University of British Columbia, offers detailed information about mosaic chromosomal abnormalities.MedlinePlus offers an encyclopedia article about chromosomal mosaicism
.Now lets focus here. Show me any scientific evidence that a chromasome can evolve into a higher more complex life form. I am not interested in opinions or theory's. If there is research proof we will see a legitamate PHd's name on it.
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Apostate Kate
List of genetic disorders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See if you can read each and every one of these genetic diseases and then explain WHY when something happens to the CODE it means something very bad has happened.
Now why can't we find the genes and see evolutionary progress showing the development of 2020 vision, or bones that don't break, or higher intelligence, why are all genetic abnormalities causing diseases? Or how about something really simple, a mutation/varience that makes one unable to get sick, or disease, or even the common cold.
Not going to happen because it is not already written in the human code. Break the code and get diseases. Where's the upward evolutionary progress here?
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Apostate Kate
LOL Kate, Since when is genetic kinship not a matter of shared ancestry?
When one has 62 chromasomes and one has 64 and any changes in chromasomes causes fatal/bad/big problems/ see "the human transcript map" above.
You can assume they came from the same place, you have no scientific proof of that. The science we have thus far disproves that these types of changes can take place to create another species. Like I said, show me.
We have evidence of sooooooo many diseases causes from errors in DNa and chromasomes. WHY is there no evidence of errors causing improvements?
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Apostate Kate
Lets not stop there!
The Human Transcript Map Go through every chromasome on the lower right hand side and find me just one mutation/varience/mistake/missing part that caused something good to happen. Just one.
This is why I no longer believe. You can SAY that errors/variences in the DNA code, genes, and chromasomes caused all life, you can believe all life got here via evolution, but the evidence I'm seeing does not allow me to come to that conclusion.
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Apostate Kate
Another obvious answer; Because they share a common ancestry.
In your opinion it is "obvious" but that is because your starting point is that evolution is a proven fact. In my opinion they are two different animals in the same family that are close enough to mate but since they are two different animals they will be sterile.
I used to believe that but not anymore. I used to believe eohippus (sp) was the common ancestor. But you just can't screw around with chromasomes. Explain what happens to a human when a chromasome is changed. Here is a simple example for us simpletons;Introduction to Chromosome Diseases - CureResearch.com
Now show me any evidence at all that additional or missing chrmosomes can create a higher life form.
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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Apostate Kate
Hooberus I doubt that many evolutionists will read that book. It seems to me that evolution has become more of a religion based on mythical evidence that must be protected from us lowly ignorant ones.
There is no evidence that any organism has ever aquired new genetic material from the sun and evolved into a more comlpex organism.